Skipy33 Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Hi, I wanted to fly E175 at Flytampa KTPA but once all was loaded I can see that I have a big FPS problem dropping from 30 (NVidia limiter) to 14. Loading PMDG 737 at the same place I get back 28 fps. I never had this kind of problem with E_Jets on P3D4.1. Any compatibility issue with the 4.2? I got the same problem at LatinVFR KEYW which is a "small" scenery. FPS drops to 14-15 with E175 loaded cold and dark. Regards, Skip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipy33 Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Hello, Any feedback on this issue? I'm the only one to have E-jets v2 on P3D4.2? Skip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobflight Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 don't fly P3D so cannot comment (excluding responding to your comment with this comment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere_Vic Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 We are looking. Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinno65 Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Hi Skip33 flew the erj175 p3dv4.2 last night no issues with fps using flytampa KBOS UTLive at 70% nvidia inspector set to 30fps and half refresh for my 60hz monitor only problem was the plane did not capture the glide slope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipy33 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 7 hours ago, vinno65 said: Hi Skip33 flew the erj175 p3dv4.2 last night no issues with fps using flytampa KBOS UTLive at 70% nvidia inspector set to 30fps and half refresh for my 60hz monitor only problem was the plane did not capture the glide slope Hi, This is strange... I just did the test again at LatinVFR KEYW. - I also use Nvidia FPS limiter set to 30fps - With Ejet 175 or 195 my FPS are swaping from 24 to 42 fps - If I change vehicule to set F-22 Raptor FPS are steady at 30fps - If I change again with E-Jets same behaviour occurs - I have the latest release of Ejets v2 (EMBv2_P3D4-20180109) Nothing special in E170 logfile when I load the aircraft and proceed with startup procedure from cold and dark except some simconnect events: Simconnect is ok 0000000087141EC0 FlightLoaded hr = 0 FlightSaved hr = 0 Paused hr = 0 Sim hr = 0 Sound hr = 0 SimConnect_CallDispatch hr = 0 SC: SIMCONNECT_RECV_ID_OPEN, 134 SC: SIMCONNECT_RECV_ID_EVENT, 1C SC EVENT: 2 SC: SIMCONNECT_RECV_ID_EVENT, 1C SC EVENT: 3 SC: SIMCONNECT_RECV_ID_EVENT, 1C SC EVENT: 4 SC: SIMCONNECT_RECV_ID_SYSTEM_STATE, 11C SC: SIMCONNECT_RECV_ID_EVENT, 1C SC EVENT: 3 Initialising plane Engines and hydraulics initialised System 9 initialised System 10 initialised System 11 initialised System 12 initialised System 13 initialised System 14 initialised System 15 initialised System 16 initialised System 17 initialised System 18 initialised System 19 initialised System 20 initialised System 21 initialised System 22 initialised System 23 initialised System 24 initialised System 25 initialised System 26 initialised System 27 initialised System 28 initialised System 29 initialised System 30 initialised System 31 initialised System 32 initialised System 33 initialised Display 1 initialised Display 2 initialised Display 3 initialised Display 4 initialised Display 5 initialised Display 6 initialised Display 7 initialised Display 8 initialised Display 9 initialised Sound manager initialised reading ini Plane initialised Trying Connect I:\P3Dv4\SimObjects\Airplanes\feelThere PIC E195\panel\..\..\..\..\FeelThere\Nd\nd.db3 Connect ok test search apt executed query 01ID 01NK 01TX 01WI 02WA 04WN 06FA 06WN 07FA 07MT test passed before loading plans plans loaded Extracting VHF navaids Extracted VHF navaids FMS is not initialized yet FMS has been initialized TCAS is not initialized yet TCAS has been initialized SC: SIMCONNECT_RECV_ID_EVENT, 1C SC EVENT: 3 SC: SIMCONNECT_RECV_ID_EVENT_FILENAME, 120 Of course I have many addons which use simconnect but it would be strange that a conflict occurs only with Ejets. Skip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere_Vic Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 This could be caused by system complexity, model, etc. It's not a major drop. Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipy33 Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, FeelThere said: This could be caused by system complexity, model, etc. It's not a major drop. Vic Vic, I am in touch with your support team via mail. The issue is that FPS is "jumping" every second from 24 to 42 fps on a small airport without AI traffic moving or complex weather. I don't have this problem with any other aircraft including PMDG or TFDi more complex addons. With a real weather environment at a big airport the E-jets becomes unflyable. This issue didn't happen with P3D4.1 and looks like a simconnect problem as some other people can have with FSUIPC 5.123 (fps stuttering). Skip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere_Vic Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Hi Skip. We are researching it however we are aware v2 has some problems that are affecting other developers product as well. Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipy33 Posted March 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 8 hours ago, FeelThere said: Hi Skip. We are researching it however we are aware v2 has some problems that are affecting other developers product as well. Vic Hi, Yes... Some products had to produce fix in order to run with 4.2 but not all fortunately. FSUIPC which has the same symptom was working well with an "old" 5.122 version, bad with the 5.123 and ok now with the latest 5.124. Skip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefly Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Please let us know if you find a fix fo the FPS mess. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipy33 Posted March 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Sabrefly said: Please let us know if you find a fix fo the FPS mess. Thanks No I didn't find any fix or workaround. Even without all dll's and exe modules (Active Sky, PMDG, FSUIPC,...) I have the same issue. I was able to perform a flight but it's very annoying and causing stutters. I'm still waiting for an official answer from feelthere who is working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere_Vic Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Our upcoming ERJ will require P3D4.2 and we will see if that solves any problems (by making it 4.2 compatible only). Based on the information we collected 4.2 is causing issues for other developers as well so we are still watching this problem. Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipy33 Posted May 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 29/03/2018 at 12:09 PM, FeelThere said: Our upcoming ERJ will require P3D4.2 and we will see if that solves any problems (by making it 4.2 compatible only). Based on the information we collected 4.2 is causing issues for other developers as well so we are still watching this problem. Vic Hello, Exactly the same problem with ERJ 135/145XR for P3Dv4.2. Skip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere_Vic Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Skip, If I understood you correctly with the other planes you get 30 fps and with ours 24-42. I can imagine it's annoying when you watch the fps on your screen however a complex plane such as ours would not raise a concern if you'd get a steady 24. Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipy33 Posted May 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 hours ago, FeelThere said: Skip, If I understood you correctly with the other planes you get 30 fps and with ours 24-42. I can imagine it's annoying when you watch the fps on your screen however a complex plane such as ours would not raise a concern if you'd get a steady 24. Vic The FPS I gave you are coming from a test situation: KEYW airport add-on, cold and dark state without weather engine or AI traffic moving on. I let you image how this "fluctuating performance issue" can impact the simulation in a very complex situation: Big airport add-on, hundreds of AI aircraft and Active Sky weather with rain at night with dynamic lightning activated. I confirm that I have this behaviour only with your 3 Embraers products. With E-Jets v2 the issue arrived just after moving from P3Dv4.1 to P3Dv4.2. Perhaps on very powerful machines people don't notice the problem. The fact that FPS can fluctuate from 24 to 45 instead of being caped by NVidia FPS limiter is the proof that something is wrong in P3D4 display engine. Skip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipy33 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 Hello, I've just installed the latest releases of your products in my P3D4.3: - ejetsv2-p3dv4-3 - ejetsv1-p3dv4-3 - erj135-145xr-p3dv4-2 I still have the same problem. Test made at Key West airport (cold and dark, no AI aircraft) and FPS value is moving from 24 to 40. If I change vehicle to Aerosoft A318 Pro for example FPS are almost steady at 30 (NVidia Inspector FPS limiter value). This means that in a more complex environment (large airport, AI traffic and complex weather) FPS can move from 8 to 24 which is very annoying. Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere_Vic Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Skip, Would you please show us what kind of refresh rate did you set in the setup tool for the EMBs? Maybe they are running higher than other add-ons. Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipy33 Posted October 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Hello, I'm sure I already made a test long time ago with '0' for all FPS values with the same result but here are the current settings: ERJ: [FPS] pfd=100 mfd=66 eicas=66 rmu=36 isi=70 fms=34 hud=100 E170: [FPS] pfd=80 mfd=46 eicas=46 isi=47 fms=50 Even when cold and dark FPS settings can have an effect on the sim? Regards, Skip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere Ariel Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Okay thank you. We are looking. It is complicated as there are multiple computer systems and each behaves differently. It is pretty much a matter of individual computer settings and performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coabill Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 ERJ are not providing Nav Lights or Red Anti Collision lights or Red Beacon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere Ariel Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 @coabill, this is a FPS issue topic, please post this in a new thread (for order purposes) and we will gladly help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coabill Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 can you move it too the right spot please.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere Ariel Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 You just need to open a "New Subject". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando G Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 I have the same problem with fps with the ejets, hope you can solve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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