Ray Proudfoot

Hi Pete, if there was a bad texture then surely it would have caused a crash when Ai was at 100% with RC4 not running. It didn’t either today or earlier in the week with all testing at EGLL. I flew at various times today from around 11:30 to 13:00 and no crashes. Tried another two around 14:00 - 14:30 and still no crash with Ai at 100%. Five minutes after the last crash I tried again this time with RC4 running and it crashed with 100% Ai. As soon as I reduced it to 50% and loaded the same flight it was fine. Don’t see how it could be a bad texture. Crashes have only occurred with RC4 running.

No worries John. It's easy to find the Ai limit that won't cause a crash. I'll check at other heavy airports too. Pete suggested some logging which I'll send privately as the files might be huge.

The crashes are definitely linked with the amount of Ai in the sim and what is being fed to RC4. I never had the problem at EGCC simply because there is only a fraction of the Ai Heathrow has. 50% at EGLL and no problems with RC4. Hope you can get to the bottom of it John. Having all these wonderful airlines is great but not if it causes crashes.

Hi again John. I reduced Ai to 50% and was able to take-off without a crash. This problem is definitely related to the amount of Ai and the impact it's having on RC4 which in fairness would never have been an issue back in 2006 when we tested it. I see in another topic you're going to install AIG traffic and RC4. I look forward to your findings.

Hi John, I've been plagued all this week with P3D v4.4 and v4.5 crashing either when lining up on the runway, or on rotation. It's just happened again now. Earlier today I flew circuits departing 27L at EGLL and landing back on the same runway. TRied dofferent times and dates. All were absolutely fine. The only difference in the flight that crashed was I was running Radar Contact v4. It runs via WideFS on a separate PC. When P3D crashed RC still ran and was telling me to ack take-off clearance. The error was KERNELBASE.dll which probably doesn't provide much help. I had a quick chat with Pete and he says RC does all sorts of things when the aircraft is lining up like checking for Ai and perhaps trying to control them. I also have a LUA module named AiFreezer in Modules to stop incursions when you're landing. Looking at the code it only appears to activate after you land. Suspicious? Hard to say. I had 241 Ai in the bubble when the crash happened. 189 on the ground and 52 airborne. Having completed all these circuits without any problem I feel the problem is linked to RC4 and the amount of Ai in the sim. I'm running FSUIPC5 v5.151b. The fsuipc.log is attached if it helps. Happy to provide any other info you want and Pete may be able to assist with his knowledge of RC4 which he used for many years. FSUIPC5.log

It may be a huge coincidence but when I had that crash at EGLL I was running RC4 via WideFS. I had saved the flight at the holding point so later that day loaded it and tested it again. On 5 separate tests I could take off without a crash. RC4 was not running. All the tests were at the same time as the original crash. Why didn’t it crash? So I decided to start a new flight and this time I did use RC4. As the aircraft rotated P3D crashed again. It seems almost impossible that RC4 could be responsible when it only reads data from P3D. I still feel AIG Ai has a bad texture or model but thought it worth reporting. I am using the ‘b’ variant of FSUIPC5.

A different alias for every forum! 😄

Hi chaps. I’m the other user Pete mentioned. I also had the .NET crash with 5.151b installed. I reverted to 4.4 (still using 5.151b) and was able to fly out of EGLL up to Manchester and later returned to Heathrow and no crashes. But that’s with P3D v4.4 and Windows 10 build 1903. There’s another user on the CTD section on AvSim who had the same three errors as me with v4.5. https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/554065-45-ctds/?do=findComment&comment=4012882

Views are best configured with ChasePlane. Commercial software and very popular. For the EFIS and other MCP commands I have Polypot GoFlight software which links the GoFlight MCP to the aircraft MCP. I don’t know how to configure that command, sorry. Can’t help with 3, sorry.

You just beat me to it Pete. 😁 I was going to paste the same link. I have been able to program my GoFlight switches and some buttons using that excellent tutorial.

Hi John, Logs sent to your email. It's looks good. Many thanks for adding this. 👍

Thanks John, that’s good of you. I’ll try it in the next day or so and report back.

Roman, it’s all a learning experience. Once John and Pete make changes the info should be easier to extract and display. Good luck!

Thanks Pete. 😁

Hi Roman, Aii Companion uses a combo of WideFS and SimConnect across a network but purely SimConnect when run on the same PC as P3D. Bear in mind AiC is designed to be used with AIG Ai Traffic which is designed for P3D v4 only. I notice you're testing with FSX. Would FSUIPC5 have the same limitation? Maybe Pete or John can answer that question. A gauge would not be something I would want to use, sorry. This was something desirable rather than essential. Thank you for your efforts.

Hi Roman, Thanks for your news. Unfortunately the image isn’t showing. If you’re able to provide an exe that can retrieve data via WideFS I am happy to wait I’m using a utility that shows Ai in P3D and it runs across WideFS. But it’s difficult for it to provide the data in a simple format to fit into a small space. You can find Ai Companion here. https://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=29651.0 Hopefully it won’t prove difficult for you and being able to filter either by distance or ICAO and show counts by the Ai status would be very useful both for me and many others I think. Maybe less coffee and more tea - English perhaps. 😉👍

Enrico, Have you disabled Controllers in P3D? That's the most likely cause.

Thanks Roman. You are a clever chap being able to do things like this. I'm sure others will be interested in this too. PM me if you want me to test an executable across WideFS.

Roman, I appreciate your kind offer but a gauge would not appeal. Running WideFS on a second computer does allow me to display info of this type in a small window which is ideal for me. Is it possible it could be achieved via a executable instead?

Hi John, Pete has suggested I request this feature but it’s not urgent so fit it in when you’re able. With so many Ai from the AIG package injected into P3D it would be helpful to know how many are ground based and airborne. That would help when assessing the impact of Ai on fps when pushing P3D hard for best performance. I understand the Ai bubble is 80nm. So when I’m sitting at EGLL and the count currently says 300 that’s taking into account Ai at Gatwick, London City, Stansted and Luton plus those overhead. Oh, and Northolt too perhaps. Knowing how many ground Ai just at Heathrow would be helpful. So as well as separating ground & airborne is it possible to filter by airport?

Thanks John. I'll wait until Pete has had a chance to reply. No great hurry.

Hi John, I'm currently using a LUA script to count the number of Ai in P3D v4 using the offset 025C. But that only gives the total count and doesn't differentiate between ground and airborne. I've looked though the Offsets file but can't find anything that would give me this info. I still use Traffic Look and that can show them separately. Is it possible to do the same via LUA?

Just delete the lua file or rename the extension. All lua files in that folder run automatically.

Pete, The GF166 has an outer and inner dial. When changing frequencies the outer dial changes whole numbers and the inner one the decimal part. But when it comes to changing the OBS only the inner dial works. Don't think there's a solution for this. When in FREQ mode the outer and inner dials work fine. It seems a daft decision by PMDG not to go with the default OBS as they have done with the frequency aspect.

Hi Pete, ah, that will be it. No, I just programmed for the press, not the release. Never occured to me that also applied to a rotary control. Nothing back from PMDG yet but I reckon you've provided the solution. I'll report back once I've programmed the release. LATER: Well done Pete. That was the solution. All working fine now. Good man! 👍 Actually, there still a problem. If I rotate the knob too quickly the display doesn't keep up. I might have to abandon this and use the mouse. 😒