dan_b Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I recently purchased JFK and there are major push back issues with terminal 2/3. Is there a fix that didn't come with the latest JFK download? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere Ariel Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Dan, What issues are you speaking of? Could you provide more details please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_b Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Sorry, I should have said terminals 2/4. Pushing in circles, through buildings. Some will push, call for taxi instructions, then continue pushing in bizarre patterns. Some times it will take 5 minutes for a plane to line up properly to taxi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirJamaica Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Same problem here. Really unrealistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_b Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 from the log, it it helps... Example 1: 16:10:14 * DLH401 => ADD HISTORY: DLH401: Tower, LUFTHANSA 401 requesting push and start. 16:10:15 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * EDV5062 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:10:15 alt: 0 takeoff: False/True/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DAL43 => roadend! 16:10:15 alt: 0 takeoff: False/True/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DAL43 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_TO_RUNWAY to STATE_TAKEOFFUP 16:10:16 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * JBU33 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:10:17 * DAL45 => ADD HISTORY: DAL45 Successful takeoff. +10 pts 16:10:17 alt: 0 takeoff: True/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DAL45 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_TAKEOFFUP to STATE_FLYAWAY selcmd: #SELECT*DLH401% SET PlANE: DLH401 CMDTREE: tree_ground_outgoing 16:10:18 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * QFA11 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:10:18 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * QFA11 => Activate incoming plane. 16:10:18 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * BAW177 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:10:19 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * EDV5286 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:10:20 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * JBU268 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING COMMAND: DLH401 PUSHBACK APPROVED, EXPECT RUNWAY 13R 16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_6 * DLH401 => PARSE CMD: PUSHBACK APPROVED, EXPECT RUNWAY 13R 16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_6 r: 13R * DLH401 => GROUND, roadcut: GROUND, ONE THREE RIGHT PUSHBACK APPROVED. 16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_6 r: 13R * DLH401 => SAY: GROUND, ONE THREE RIGHT PUSHBACK APPROVED. LUFTHANSA FOUR ZERO ONE 16:10:22 * DLH401 => ADD HISTORY: DLH401: GROUND, 13R PUSHBACK APPROVED. DLH401 16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_6 r: 13R * DLH401 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_WAITING to STATE_TO_RUNWAY 16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DLH401 => Start calc route from: T1_6 start idx: 14 16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DLH401 => Calc from: T1_6 16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DLH401 => Route is: T1_6, MA, A, Q, MC, P, PF, calculate time: 0.005249023s highest count: 1497 16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DLH401 => Add trash EXAMPLE 2: 16:20:00 * AFR23 => ADD HISTORY: AFR23: Tower, AIR FRANCE 23 requesting push and start. 16:20:00 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * ENY3927 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:20:00 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * VIR153 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:20:01 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * BAW177 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:20:03 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * DAL2218 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:20:03 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * DAL2218 => Activate incoming plane. selcmd: #SELECT*AFR23% SET PlANE: AFR23 CMDTREE: tree_ground_outgoing 16:20:07 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * EDV5286 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:20:07 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * AAL2448 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:20:10 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * BAW177 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING COMMAND: AFR23 PUSHBACK APPROVED, EXPECT RUNWAY 13R 16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_8 * AFR23 => PARSE CMD: PUSHBACK APPROVED, EXPECT RUNWAY 13R 16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_8 r: 13R * AFR23 => GROUND, roadcut: GROUND, ONE THREE RIGHT PUSHBACK APPROVED. 16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_8 r: 13R * AFR23 => SAY: GROUND, ONE THREE RIGHT PUSHBACK APPROVED. AIR FRANCE TWO THREE 16:20:10 * AFR23 => ADD HISTORY: AFR23: GROUND, 13R PUSHBACK APPROVED. AFR23 16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_8 r: 13R * AFR23 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_WAITING to STATE_TO_RUNWAY 16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * AFR23 => Start calc route from: T1_8 start idx: 13 16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * AFR23 => Calc from: T1_8 16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * AFR23 => Route is: T1_8, MA, A, Q, MC, P, PF, calculate time: 0.005615234s highest count: 1497 16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * AFR23 => Add trash 16:20:12 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * EDV5286 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 16:20:13 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER t: T5_3 r: 13L * JBU164 => road end 16:20:13 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER t: T5_3 r: 13L * JBU164 => start outgoing: JBU164 16:20:13 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER t: T5_3 r: 13L * JBU477 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_TO_TERMINAL to STATE_WAITING 16:20:15 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * ENY3927 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere Ariel Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 Dan, could you provide screenshots along with the log showing the problems you mention please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_b Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 I will have to replay and take shots. Problems appear to be Terminal 1 4, 6 , 8 Planes will push, end up in weird positions then call for taxi. The tug stays attached. After receiving instructions, the tugs keep pushing all over the place. I had a plane push from gate 8 , circled, back and forth, through the building and out into the trees beside Q Terminal 2 C60 C61 C62 C63 C65 Planes that park at C65 spin in circles and park backwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATControl -- Joe Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 3 hours ago, dan_b said: I will have to replay and take shots. Problems appear to be Terminal 1 4, 6 , 8 Planes will push, end up in weird positions then call for taxi. The tug stays attached. After receiving instructions, the tugs keep pushing all over the place. I had a plane push from gate 8 , circled, back and forth, through the building and out into the trees beside Q Terminal 2 C60 C61 C62 C63 C65 Planes that park at C65 spin in circles and park backwards Are you sure you have the most recent version of JFK installed? There was an SP a while back and all of the things you are describing do not happen post-SP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_b Posted June 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 I purchased/downloaded on June 4. I would assume it was the latest version. Where do you find updates? I thought the downloads were already updated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbascott Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 Assuming your installer is KJFK_for_Tower3D_4.2a.exe then you have the current version. I believe all the troublesome gates/pushbacks (i.e., get stuck or collisions that cause point reductions) were corrected with the last release. However, I still do see a crazy pushback every once in a while but they are basically harmless at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_b Posted June 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 ya, I have 4.2a.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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