Tummi Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Hey there, first of all thank your for publish a so far working FSUIPC 7 Version that fast! Unfortunatly i experience a massive Frame drop of 20-30 FPS, as soon as i connect FSUIPC . Lowerin the MSFS20 Settings to lowest possible has no effect. As soon as i disconnect FSUIPC from the SIM my FPS increase again... Please let me know if i can offer you any further information or files to get a resolve on this Regards, Björn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dowson Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tummi said: Unfortunatly i experience a massive Frame drop of 20-30 FPS, as soon as i connect FSUIPC . This seems to be a known problem with the released version of the SimConnect library, which wasn't present in the beta build. It affects all SimConnect clients, including FSUIPC7. It has been reported to MSFS/Asobo. I'll update when I have further information. John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxx Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Yes, there's something really wrong with the SimConnect connection (e.g. vPilot has the same issues). More than the reduced FPS it's basically unusable due to stutter, as you can see in the attached screenshot (please ignore the fact that I'm lying upside down in the streets of New York 😁). You can see on the graphs on the left side the moment FSUIPC connected. Average FPS drop from 40 to 20, but it's much worse than stable 20 FPS. On the right side the "Manipulators" graph was a steady, green block before the connection. Other than that FSUIPC is working really well for what I tested so far. The one special hardware I have that uses FSUIPC for its displays and buttons seems to work just like in P3D. I really hope Asobo fixes the SimConnect issue fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, jaxx said: I really hope Asobo fixes the SimConnect issue fast. Well, they should be able to -- the last Beta developers received was fine -- no noticeable degradation with SimConnect applications running. I don't know why they go and release a version none of the Developers or beta testers have seen beforehand! Very disappointing. 😞 Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dowson Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, jaxx said: Other than that FSUIPC is working really well for what I tested so far. That's good to know! Shame about the FPS drop/SimConnect issue, hopefully it will be fixed soon. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiartz Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Hi! I've the same problem trying to connect vaBase. Connecting FSUIPC it work fine but fps are really low! Let we know when there are a fix! 😉 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garcez Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 I am experiencing a 50% drop in FPS using FSUIPC7. Now I don't know if the problem is with FSUIPC7 or SimConnect.dll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Garcez said: I am experiencing a 50% drop in FPS using FSUIPC7. Now I don't know if the problem is with FSUIPC7 or SimConnect.dll As already explained just above, if you had read the thread, it is a problem with SimConnect affecting ALL SimConnect client programs. It's a bug added to MSFS since the last Beta release (where performance was excellent). Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garcez Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: As already explained just above, if you had read the thread, it is a problem with SimConnect affecting ALL SimConnect client programs. It's a bug added to MSFS since the last Beta release (where performance was excellent). Pete Yes is the problem with SimConnect. Edited August 18, 2020 by Garcez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zfehr Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 I am curious if developer mode needs to be turned on for FSUIPC 7 to work and if that may be part of the frame rate degredation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roa Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, zfehr said: I am curious if developer mode needs to be turned on for FSUIPC 7 to work and if that may be part of the frame rate degredation? It has nothing to do with that. The problem is in the rendering code in FS2020. The code in FS2020 detects the Simconnect Client Events sent to it, but, go to sleep for a period before executing the Event. It is the same for all Simconnect clients at the moment. Very frustrating bug and not that very professional handling by MS/ASOBO in the process between beta and release if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRedZac Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, roa said: Very frustrating bug and not that very professional handling by MS/ASOBO in the process between beta and release if you ask me. What do you expect from a software, which was thrown to market in a hurry, not even having time enough for implementing a Splash Screen on the very beginning, showing, that the Software is loading up to the entry with "XBox Gaming Studio" bla bla, which takes about 30 seconds to appear after double click... It would have been good as well to display some text about what it is doing, while loading for so long... It is rediculous that after Xbox, Asobo and the ai logo, I am welcome with "Press any key to start", and until that still not seen a single announcement, that it is MS Flight Simulator, what will be started with "any key"... To me, this all looks like I am taking part now in a public beta, which I paid 129 bugs for... Really rediculous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roniish Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Just to let you know, FSUIPC7 is working absolutely perfectly - besides the stuttering. All controls etc for a basic setup works right off the bat. Installation was simple too. Hoping for a quick fix from Asobo so that I/we can use FSUIPC7 properly - and then buy a license! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zfehr Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 I'm not at my computer so cannot check but I am curious if the simconnect from the SDK (which we are using in the FSUIPC 7 folder) and the simconnect in MSFS are not identical files and that is what is causing the fps drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zfehr Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, zfehr said: I'm not at my computer so cannot check but I am curious if the simconnect from the SDK (which we are using in the FSUIPC 7 folder) and the simconnect in MSFS are not identical files and that is what is causing the fps drop? They do have two different dates associated with them. MSFS ships with one dated 8/8/2020 and the SDK has 7/22/2020. If we could get the two to match but I am unable to copy and paste the newer file into the FSUIPC folder, says I need administrator permission (which I am) and when I press OK it just brings up a try again selection which will not allow the transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
737-SimGuy Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Where did you find the one dated 8/8/2020? I'll give it a go. A search doesn't find it. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zfehr Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, 737-SimGuy said: Where did you find the one dated 8/8/2020? I'll give it a go. A search doesn't find it. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificJets Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Its in the Windows app folder although it seems to have a lock on it even if you are adminastrator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificJets Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Its in the Windows app folder although it seems to have a lock on it even if you are adminastrator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
737-SimGuy Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Thanks.... Tried every trick I know of and couldn't copy it either 😞 James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zfehr Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, 737-SimGuy said: Thanks.... Tried every trick I know of and couldn't copy it either 😞 James So did I. Must have trade secrets in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudeboy1988 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 I booted into Linux, but this folder is inaccessible even from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldefeyter Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 You need to take ownership of the folder, currently the "TrustedInstaller" is owner. After this you can give administrators access to the folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tummi Posted August 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 how can we do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kand Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 right click on folder- take ownership but even after that I find the options to do anything in the folder are lokced to read and execute only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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